Europe's turn (Roundtable Green Infrastructure & Energy Transition - part 1)

This report was originally written in Dutch. This is an English translation.
Transport, energy and water infrastructure face a major sustainability challenge. A “coalition of the willing” has been formed, with private parties increasingly taking the lead. But who will foot the bill? How can investments in the energy transition be made wisely? And what role does nuclear energy play? Investors and experts will discuss these and other questions in a roundtable discussion led by Rishma Moennasing.
By Manno van den Berg
This is part 1 of the report. Part 2 will be published on Monday 4 August, part 3 on Wednesdag 6 August.
MODERATOR Rishma Moennasing, Rabobank Investment Office
PARTICIPANTS Angeles Toledo, Blue Sky Group Bart van Merriënboer, a.s.r. real assets investment partners Duncan Hale, Schroders Greenooat Friso Verveld, EY John Carey, L&G Lena Doan, Nuveen Mark Gilligan, AXA IM Alts Remko van der Erf, Intermediate Capital Group (ICG) |
We cannot ignore geopolitical developments, so let's start there. We have all seen the turmoil in the financial markets. What does Trump in the White House mean for green infrastructure?
Bart van Merriënboer: 'Donald Trump's presidential decisions on energy are less radical than people think. It's mainly about how the federal government deals with renewable energy. Import tariffs are another story. They could influence our customers' willingness to invest. Will they still want to invest in the US? Will those tariffs affect returns? That is still unclear.'
Duncan Hale: 'There is headwind in the US, especially around offshore wind and onshore wind projects on federal land. But in a broader sense, we see that construction is still continuing. Transactions are still taking place, certainly in operational assets.'
Remko van der Erf: 'Ultimately, market developments will determine the outcome, not Trump. The offshore wind market in the US has been hit by Trump's order to revoke permits, but this order only affects around 4% of onshore wind projects in the US. So it's not a huge impact. In Europe, on the other hand, we are seeing that the importance of renewable energy and energy security is only increasing as a result of US policy.'
Lena Doan: 'Our energy infrastructure credit strategy is primarily focused on North America and Europe. We take a long-term view and believe that, despite the political turmoil, there are still plenty of opportunities for attractive investments in renewable energy. There is growing demand for electricity due to electrification, AI, and data centers. If you are independent of federal land or federal tax breaks, such as solar energy projects for energy distribution in local communities, people can still benefit from cheaper, sustainable energy. Especially in times of inflation and rising interest rates, everyone wants to pay less for their electricity bill.'
Mark Gilligan: 'The cost of solar and wind energy is now lower than that of any fossil fuel, including gas. America has a huge advantage in wind and solar, but has been turning its back on it for four years now. Europe needs to become self-sufficient in energy and is working on this, with the help of cheap solar panels and batteries from China. The chaos in the White House is actually strengthening the European Union in this policy. That's a reason to focus on Europe.'
Is this the moment for Europe to invest even more in green infrastructure and the energy transition?
Friso Verveld: 'Europe can take the lead in the energy transition now that the US is taking a step back. There is a huge opportunity to bring supply chains to Europe and thus become less dependent on the rest of the world. But that could increase costs, which is at odds with the goal of becoming more sustainable. Cheap electricity is crucial if you want to make industries more sustainable, through electrification or the switch to hydrogen.'
Angeles Toledo: 'This is definitely the moment for Europe! Despite the uncertainty in the US and the possibility of rising costs for green infrastructure, Europe offers attractive opportunities. Europe remains on course for net zero. You can even see Dutch pension funds increasing their allocation to the energy transition. Under the new pension contract, funds may also be able to invest more in illiquid markets.'
Verveld: 'A strong and sustainable ecosystem in Europe offers opportunities in terms of employment and for capital providers. There is demand for more sustainable products throughout the chain. This should ultimately lead to a higher level of prosperity.'
Hale: 'Europe is attractive. The returns and opportunities we see in Europe today are much better than three years ago. There are fewer buyers in the market, which creates unique opportunities for strategic investments.'
Europe is working on energy independence and rearmament. Do you see opportunities for investors there?
Toledo: 'Securing our own energy supply is absolutely essential—and that creates investment opportunities. And it will become even more attractive as Europe becomes more competitive and efficient. Hopefully, the Omnibus Regulation will simplify reporting. Postponing the CSRD will help companies set priorities, but the shift toward greater sustainability must remain on track.'
Hale: 'Energy security is crucial. Major investments in European defense make little sense if you are still dependent on gas from hostile countries or unreliable allies. This will lead to more investment in energy security, both in renewable energy and in battery technology.'
Gilligan: 'It's fascinating how quickly the term ‘unreliable allies’ is understood by everyone at the table. A lot has changed in a short time.'
Van Merriënboer: 'Aren't we in the Netherlands being a little hypocritical? We stopped using Russian gas, but now we import it from the US, where it is extracted through fracking – not exactly environmentally friendly. We could produce our own natural gas here in the Netherlands, with less environmental damage. But we don't want that in our backyard. Energy independence remains a difficult path, although there are still many untapped opportunities.'
Rishma Moennasing Rishma Moennasing is Lead Investment Funds & Mandates at Rabobank Investment Office and, as project leader for SFDR, MiFID ESG, and EU green taxonomy, is responsible for the implementation of all green EU rules for investments. She has been with Rabobank since 2008 and previously held a similar position at ABN AMRO Private Banking & Asset Management. She is also active in the VBDO. John Carey John Carey leads the Infrastructure Debt team at L&G Real Assets in Europe. Before joining the company in May 2023, he worked at IFM Investors. Prior to that, he held a number of positions in the infrastructure sector at Barclays, KPMG, and Moody's in the areas of banking, consulting, and credit ratings since 2001. |
John Carey John Carey leads the Infrastructure Debt team at L&G Real Assets in Europe. Before joining the company in May 2023, he worked at IFM Investors. Prior to that, he held a number of positions in the infrastructure sector at Barclays, KPMG, and Moody's since 2001, in the areas of banking, consulting, and credit ratings. |
Lena Doan Lena Doan is Managing Director Energy Infrastructure Credit at Nuveen. She has experience in investments within capital structures, energy markets, and management companies. Before joining Nuveen, she worked at HPS Investment Partners in private credit and renewable energy. Prior to that, she worked at Carlyle and Denham Capital. She started her career in investment banking at Citi and later as a trader at Calpine. |
Remko van der Erf Remko van der Erf is Managing Director at Intermediate Capital Group (ICG) and responsible for the Benelux region. ICG has been financing medium-sized European companies since 1989 and launched a European Infrastructure Equity strategy in 2018, followed by a strategy focused on the Asia-Pacific region in 2022. Van der Erf has gained extensive experience in alternatives during his career at Robeco and Van Lanschot Kempen. |
Mark Gilligan Mark Gilligan is responsible for AXA IM Alts' infrastructure equity platform. The investment strategy is based on the belief that climate change is the defining issue of this century and focuses on developing, building, and operating infrastructure that is suitable for or adaptable to a sustainable net-zero world. Key themes for the strategy are decarbonization, electrification, and digitalization. |
Duncan Hale Duncan Hale joined Schroders Greencoat in 2022. He works within the private markets business, with a particular focus on managing Schroders Greencoat's product offering in the asset management and defined contribution market. Before joining Schroders Greencoat, Hale worked at WTW, where he led their secure income capability. |
Bart van Merriënboer Bart van Merriënboer is Senior Portfolio Manager Infrastructure at a.s.r. real assets investment partners. Since 2007, he has been involved in the selection, monitoring, and implementation of asset managers and portfolio construction and management for institutional investors. Van Merriënboer has over 30 years of experience in the financial industry, starting out in derivatives and fixed income, then moving on to equities and hedge funds, and now working in the field of private assets. |
Angeles Toledo Angeles Toledo works at Achmea Investment Management and is an experienced impact investor and advisor to pension funds. Until recently, she was Head of the ESG and Impact Investment Team at Blue Sky Group. Prior to that, she worked as Fund Manager of the Triodos Groenfonds. Toledo has been nominated several times for the Top 50 Women in Sustainable Finance in the Netherlands. |
Friso Verveld Friso Verveld is a Partner at EY. He uses his expertise in project financing and investments in sustainable energy to facilitate financing for sustainable infrastructure and the energy transition. He focuses on creating win-win situations for all parties involved, with the aim of accelerating the green economy. |